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Muggles in the Magical World - Annabeth Adlard - June 4, 2020

So in the books and on site we've had cases of magical and muggles marrying or also muggleborns siblings and parents who magic can't be hidden from. What is the practice for these folks? What can they see and know? Are magical folks allowed to do magic before muggles they are related to/married to? And also where do typically magical based areas stand on these people? We saw Hermione's parents in diagon alley for supply shopping if I remember right but what about in the ve and what about living there for spouces?

Thanks!

RE: Muggles in the Magical World - Odette Tailler - June 4, 2020

I don't know abour other factors, but I think if a magical person were to marry a muggle (likely who has no muggleborn siblings) that they can't tell unless they have children together. However, I could be mistaken.

RE: Muggles in the Magical World - Madeleine Backus - June 4, 2020

Seamus Finnegan mum tells her hubs on wedding night, so I'd assume that would be the case

RE: Muggles in the Magical World - Seneca Lestrange - June 4, 2020

I'd say that it depends on the person? One Wizard could tell their Muggle partner while they're dating, the other 4 years into marriage. I don't think there is a way to regulate someone telling a specific person about magic.

RE: Muggles in the Magical World - Percival Adlard - June 4, 2020

So I guess the question comes down to how to treat Muggles living in irvingly who marry a magical person?

RE: Muggles in the Magical World - Aldous Crouch - June 4, 2020

(June 4, 2020 – 12:48 PM)Percival Adlard Jr. Wrote:  So I guess the question comes down to how to treat Muggles living in irvingly who marry a magical person?

I think this is a different question actually—by virtue of living in Irvingly, the muggles there already know about the magical world!

RE: Muggles in the Magical World - Daniel Selwyn - June 4, 2020

(June 4, 2020 – 1:25 PM)Aldous Crouch Wrote:  
(June 4, 2020 – 12:48 PM)Percival Adlard Jr. Wrote:  So I guess the question comes down to how to treat Muggles living in irvingly who marry a magical person?

I think this is a different question actually—by virtue of living in Irvingly, the muggles there already know about the magical world!

Fair enough. Would that said muggle be able to move to Hogsmeade or would the magical person need to move to Irvingly?

RE: Muggles in the Magical World - Aldous Crouch - June 4, 2020

(June 4, 2020 – 1:27 PM)Daniel Selwyn Wrote:  
(June 4, 2020 – 1:25 PM)Aldous Crouch Wrote:  
(June 4, 2020 – 12:48 PM)Percival Adlard Jr. Wrote:  So I guess the question comes down to how to treat Muggles living in irvingly who marry a magical person?

I think this is a different question actually—by virtue of living in Irvingly, the muggles there already know about the magical world!

Fair enough. Would that said muggle be able to move to Hogsmeade or would the magical person need to move to Irvingly?

Hogsmeade isn't accessible to muggles, so they would have to live elsewhere!

RE: Muggles in the Magical World - Ursula Black - June 4, 2020

Like someone said, you can't really police who someone's told about magic. Technically you could probably tell anyone, the only scenario that would cause issues is if that muggle believed it and then started telling others or in some other way making trouble for wizards. So it comes down to being careful who you tell. If you're telling a member of your family you're probably not going to tell Puritan Great Aunt Alice but your supportive muggle cousin who wouldn't cause trouble would probably be fine.

As for doing magic in front of muggles, I think the members of your immediate muggle family are fine because they've been told about magic when the kid was given their hogwarts letter and the Ministry would know that those muggles are enlightened ones. If Bobby Muggleton told his extended family and also his friends and then started doing magic around them all the Ministry would probably turn up like hey what are you doing these are muggles and he might be like Oh it's fine I've told them they're chill and then they'd probably be like Uh dude that's 30 people, statute of secrecy man, it's obliviation time.

I think probably the only time you'd have a potential issue telling a significant other about magic (in the VE) is if you told them too early and you're not engaged yet and you use magic in front of them OR they're a blabbermouth and you didn't impress upon them how serious it is to keep it a secret. OR if it causes a break up and you don't obliviate them. I can't imagine they'd expect a divorced person to obliviate their muggle spouse because that would probably incredibly intricate if you've been together a while. They might leave them if they seem benign but I guess the Ministry could get involved and obliviate them if they think that muggle poses a threat.

RE: Muggles in the Magical World - Madeleine Backus - June 4, 2020

Slightly related question then - can muggles be subject to an unbreakable vow?

they can be cursed, hex and otherwise affected by magic, so does the magic come from the person making the vow, or the person to whom the vow is made?

so could someone make a muggle take the vow?